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		<title>By: Shanasta</title>
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		<dc:creator>Shanasta</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 May 2010 05:29:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree 100% with what you are saying about student loans.  I recently sent in my last student loan payment on the 20th anniversary of signing my first promissory note at age 17.   Most 17 year olds know little about finances and the burden of debt.  I was no exception! 

After schooling in engineering, undergrad and grad, no parental help, working minimum wage jobs during school, I came out $75k in student loan debt (a $900 monthly payment), $8k in credit card debt (books, food, tuition, etc. that I couldn&#039;t cover by working or loans) and a crappy job market.  These loans were one of my biggest mistakes EVER!

Everyone handles debt differently, and I didn&#039;t realize how much it would weigh on my mind.  The emotional &quot;cost&quot; of the debt took a higher toll on me than the $30k in interest I paid back.  Also knowing that if I fell on hard economic times (due to job loss, illness, disability, etc), it would be near impossible to discharge my student loans frightened the hell out of me.  I had no idea that was the case when I signed those loan papers.  The only way to get rid of them is to pay up or die.

Oh, and surprise!  I did come down with a life threatening illness in the middle of repaying my loans.  But I worked during the treatments ... all because I had those loans to pay.

From the time I stepped into a kindergarten classroom up until I graduated high school, I was brainwashed into believing that a college education is required to provide economic freedom, choices and opportunities.  And hence that student loans would be more than worth it.  Ironically, student loans enslaved me.  I feel cheated and lied to.  Mostly I am angry at myself for believing all that garbage.  I still haven&#039;t forgiven myself for being so naive.

Oh, and I know several people with high school diplomas or certificates that have done just fine without college.  Proper money management and living within their means seems to be key.  But that is key at any income.

Because of my student loans, I decided not to get married or have kids.  I just couldn&#039;t see that I could do it and not have my finances completely trashed into my 40s or even my 50s.  And now I have to focus on saving for retirement.  

While I understand that some people feel positive about their student loans, and although I am very happy for them, I have been through hell because of those loans.  My student loan has taught me many things - above all else is to be leery of taking on debt, and I will avoid it as much as possible for the rest of my life.  That is the only positive thing I can say about my student loan experience.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree 100% with what you are saying about student loans.  I recently sent in my last student loan payment on the 20th anniversary of signing my first promissory note at age 17.   Most 17 year olds know little about finances and the burden of debt.  I was no exception! </p>
<p>After schooling in engineering, undergrad and grad, no parental help, working minimum wage jobs during school, I came out $75k in student loan debt (a $900 monthly payment), $8k in credit card debt (books, food, tuition, etc. that I couldn&#8217;t cover by working or loans) and a crappy job market.  These loans were one of my biggest mistakes EVER!</p>
<p>Everyone handles debt differently, and I didn&#8217;t realize how much it would weigh on my mind.  The emotional &#8220;cost&#8221; of the debt took a higher toll on me than the $30k in interest I paid back.  Also knowing that if I fell on hard economic times (due to job loss, illness, disability, etc), it would be near impossible to discharge my student loans frightened the hell out of me.  I had no idea that was the case when I signed those loan papers.  The only way to get rid of them is to pay up or die.</p>
<p>Oh, and surprise!  I did come down with a life threatening illness in the middle of repaying my loans.  But I worked during the treatments &#8230; all because I had those loans to pay.</p>
<p>From the time I stepped into a kindergarten classroom up until I graduated high school, I was brainwashed into believing that a college education is required to provide economic freedom, choices and opportunities.  And hence that student loans would be more than worth it.  Ironically, student loans enslaved me.  I feel cheated and lied to.  Mostly I am angry at myself for believing all that garbage.  I still haven&#8217;t forgiven myself for being so naive.</p>
<p>Oh, and I know several people with high school diplomas or certificates that have done just fine without college.  Proper money management and living within their means seems to be key.  But that is key at any income.</p>
<p>Because of my student loans, I decided not to get married or have kids.  I just couldn&#8217;t see that I could do it and not have my finances completely trashed into my 40s or even my 50s.  And now I have to focus on saving for retirement.  </p>
<p>While I understand that some people feel positive about their student loans, and although I am very happy for them, I have been through hell because of those loans.  My student loan has taught me many things &#8211; above all else is to be leery of taking on debt, and I will avoid it as much as possible for the rest of my life.  That is the only positive thing I can say about my student loan experience.</p>
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		<title>By: This Mama Works It!</title>
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		<dc:creator>This Mama Works It!</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 May 2010 04:10:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Amanda thanks for stopping by. I feel that my student loans are going to haunt me for a very long time. Man if I could just back in time I would have done so much differently.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Amanda thanks for stopping by. I feel that my student loans are going to haunt me for a very long time. Man if I could just back in time I would have done so much differently.</p>
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		<title>By: Amanda</title>
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		<dc:creator>Amanda</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 May 2010 03:36:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m not sure how I got to your site specifically other than a Friday Follow.  I got here b/c of that.  I couldn&#039;t agree more with everything you wrote here.  I didn&#039;t make enough money during the summer to not have student loans, my parents made too much for aid, but not enough to help.  Thankfully my loans were not as much, but paying them put me further in debt to just get by.  Go figure.
Suze Orman says college loans are good debt, to which I always say BS!  For the same reason you state, especially the amount the loan will cost in the long run. How is that good?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m not sure how I got to your site specifically other than a Friday Follow.  I got here b/c of that.  I couldn&#8217;t agree more with everything you wrote here.  I didn&#8217;t make enough money during the summer to not have student loans, my parents made too much for aid, but not enough to help.  Thankfully my loans were not as much, but paying them put me further in debt to just get by.  Go figure.<br />
Suze Orman says college loans are good debt, to which I always say BS!  For the same reason you state, especially the amount the loan will cost in the long run. How is that good?</p>
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		<title>By: Elisa</title>
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		<dc:creator>Elisa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Apr 2010 23:42:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Fortunately I got a full ride through college, thanks to the United Bank of Mom and Dad.  However, both my husband and I did get MBA loans, which we&#039;re still struggling to pay.

Let me rephrase that.  We got some high interest MBA loans and financed the rest of our graduate education with my credit card.  Needless to say, we&#039;re now paying the cosequences.  Don&#039;t get me wrong, I make more money than the average professional thanks to that MBA, but it&#039;s like I&#039;m constantly juggling all of these payments and if one of the balls drops, the domino effect could crush us.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Fortunately I got a full ride through college, thanks to the United Bank of Mom and Dad.  However, both my husband and I did get MBA loans, which we&#8217;re still struggling to pay.</p>
<p>Let me rephrase that.  We got some high interest MBA loans and financed the rest of our graduate education with my credit card.  Needless to say, we&#8217;re now paying the cosequences.  Don&#8217;t get me wrong, I make more money than the average professional thanks to that MBA, but it&#8217;s like I&#8217;m constantly juggling all of these payments and if one of the balls drops, the domino effect could crush us.</p>
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		<title>By: Sarah</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sarah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Mar 2010 17:12:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I feel the same way you do about the kids and family part. I knew everything I was getting into for my undergrad degree, but of course at that age had no concept of children. 

What I&#039;m peeved about latley is how the government is talking about how if you work for 10 years in public service that they will forgive your loans. Simple as that, as they state it, but the truth is that only counts for people who can qualify for the income contingent plan and repay their loans on that plan (paying way more in interest than higher standard payments). I work in state government and my husband&#039;s and my combined income are too much to qualify for that payment plan so I will never see loan forgiveness. 

I guess I&#039;m just grumpy that they won&#039;t pay off my loans, but they talk about working hard and how education is the key. I worked really hard and graduated at the top of my class and did this on my own. I think merit and not just need should count for something if education really is the key. I think if they looked at my debt to income ratio rather than income alone I&#039;d probably qualify. If they offered this to everyone maybe people would work in the public service sector longer, as of now I have no incentive to keep acepting lower pay than the private sector so once research rebounds I&#039;ll be out.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I feel the same way you do about the kids and family part. I knew everything I was getting into for my undergrad degree, but of course at that age had no concept of children. </p>
<p>What I&#8217;m peeved about latley is how the government is talking about how if you work for 10 years in public service that they will forgive your loans. Simple as that, as they state it, but the truth is that only counts for people who can qualify for the income contingent plan and repay their loans on that plan (paying way more in interest than higher standard payments). I work in state government and my husband&#8217;s and my combined income are too much to qualify for that payment plan so I will never see loan forgiveness. </p>
<p>I guess I&#8217;m just grumpy that they won&#8217;t pay off my loans, but they talk about working hard and how education is the key. I worked really hard and graduated at the top of my class and did this on my own. I think merit and not just need should count for something if education really is the key. I think if they looked at my debt to income ratio rather than income alone I&#8217;d probably qualify. If they offered this to everyone maybe people would work in the public service sector longer, as of now I have no incentive to keep acepting lower pay than the private sector so once research rebounds I&#8217;ll be out.</p>
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		<title>By: Thomas @Turnkey Consulting</title>
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		<dc:creator>Thomas @Turnkey Consulting</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Mar 2010 11:00:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank God that I didn&#039;t married to someone in my life or else I&#039;ll see all these problem because one day burden of  students loan  can happen to me also. And finally saying all those evil words. 
Yap, as I heard a lot from my near ones and friend, Students loans really sucks the life. They are the really the big evil.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank God that I didn&#8217;t married to someone in my life or else I&#8217;ll see all these problem because one day burden of  students loan  can happen to me also. And finally saying all those evil words.<br />
Yap, as I heard a lot from my near ones and friend, Students loans really sucks the life. They are the really the big evil.</p>
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		<title>By: The Mommyologist</title>
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		<dc:creator>The Mommyologist</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Mar 2010 15:35:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am so blessed that I never had to deal with student loans...and the hubster didn&#039;t go to college so we don&#039;t have to worry about him.  I&#039;ve heard they are just awful though!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am so blessed that I never had to deal with student loans&#8230;and the hubster didn&#8217;t go to college so we don&#8217;t have to worry about him.  I&#8217;ve heard they are just awful though!!</p>
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		<title>By: Bridgette Groschen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bridgette Groschen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Mar 2010 14:27:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>They are evil.  My dad&#039;s wife has 3 degrees and will definetly die before those things are paid off.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>They are evil.  My dad&#8217;s wife has 3 degrees and will definetly die before those things are paid off.</p>
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		<title>By: Tina @ Life Without Pink</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tina @ Life Without Pink</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Mar 2010 13:08:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Love your blog - so here is something for you: http://www.lifewithoutpink.com/2010/03/03/my-first-award/</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Mar 2010 08:04:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] College Students Loans Are EvilAll of our loans were taking out within a 7 year period. Starting when we were 18 years old. We both used loans to pay for our entire undergraduate and graduate degrees. Hubby and I were the first in our families to go to college. &#8230;&#160;&#160;read more&#8230; [...]</description>
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